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Raping people is obviously a crime, however id argue on the sole attraction of children

Csam material is prerecorded, making it illegal is just counterproductive as the person consuming the content 99% of the time isn't the one that made the offense, they should make a law instead that only allows content made after 7 months to be illegal so that we know people arent jerking off or using material that contains a human being actually being hurt, same with hurtcore and other material, as said before its prerecorded, theres no helping in banning the media if youre not doing anything about it in the current. You cannot change the past.

Tbc
>>4744 (OP) 
**actively not actually because we know csam will always include media of real people being hurt lol
And age is a preference
it should only be illegal to profit from child porn if they really want to protect children from being exploited, once it's normalized there would be no tor sites with paywalls
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>>4751
This
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>>4759
we wouldve answered you with basic surrface level information but since you attached that pic were just gonna ignore you ✌
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massive redditors leakage 
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>>4910
what are the commetns
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>>4911
https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelTears/comments/1of4uwr/
it's just redditors crying about how pedophilia and csam is wrong, funny how there's people using sharty slangs under that reddit post
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>>4744 (OP) 
>Csam
Stop saying that, its reddit
Children can enjoy sex as much as adults, its not abuse material unless they're being raped and are screaming in pain
>>4912
Why are we even posted on that subreddit theres no anti women posts here
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>>4913
all imageboard users are automatically heckin incels
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>>4913
Its the broader and more widely understood term for media that has children engaging in sexual acts, so...        
It wasn't intentional im sorry!
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>>4911
I found a shartyuser that complains about EVERYTHING there, theyre expected I can literally predict what theyre saying lol
Pedophilia is illegal only in the idea that you cannot have consensual sex with a MENTALLY UNDERDEVELOPED HUMAN BEING, meaning that the sole attraction to THE PHYSICAL FORM of children should otherwise be legalized, as a lot pedophiles are attracted to the physical part mostly , as an alternative, I suggest mentally developed adults with undeveloped/child-like physical bodies can replace CSAM content for pedophiles to consume, I've already found some 18+  "teens" (adults) that resemble children that created content on various portions websites, ill put up an example, this is all legal, let me see if I get the link right!

https://watchteenvideos.com

(I think, basically they consider 18+ nine"teen" ages to be legal teens, I have more websites, but they resemble too closely to real CSAM, so I don't want to get threatened, banned, or called out/falsely accused for distributing something illegal by any means. )
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>>4919
Oh, and the government automatically assumes the person that doesn't initiate the action (sex) as also a form of abuse, no matter if the child in question enjoys it or not. I'm sorry. 
The terminology used for this isn't the best.
>>4912
I don't even need to put a counterargument. Those replies are just licking the laws' feet. The idea that ALL of the prerecorded CSAM that was made in the past. (There is a lot that exists, all are MADE IN THE PAST. THEY ARE NEARLY NEVER ACTIVELY PRODUCED! ........AS FAR AS IM AWARE OF)        

And no, saying that prerecorded media will initiate more acts of crime against children is just a lousy retarded excuse. Stop bootlicking... Next.
>>4916
It's because many of us actually arent even incels and understand the concept that women are natural human beings just like the rest of us, they're fun to talk to, good with emotions. I like them!
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>>4924
I thought you faggots hated "hags"
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>>4925        
Interacting with people AS PEOPLE emotionally differs from our sexual attraction...
This is an egocentric perspective, as the material makes permanent what happened to the child, and with how often society rejects adult rape victims, children should be given grace to not be slut-shamed and the likes.
>>4921
The bodies and faces creep me out. I like the voices and personalities.
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I used to agree with the idea that possession should not be illegal, but creation and distribution should be. But nowadays, I've come to seriously disagree with that conclusion. There's a reason why we arrest people who buy and take illicit substances. A demand ultimately leads to supply. People being able to possess child pornography, normalizes the creation and distribution of it, as the demand grows because now there would be many pedophiles who were unrestrained by law, trying to get their paws on child pornography. This would give an offender MORE motivation to harm children. This would make the harming of children MORE normalized. There's no such thing as staged child pornography as opposed to staged rape pornography or any other taboo erotica. Child pornography is a true representation of what is happening, it is so authentic, that i believe it WOULD motivate a person who already has the desire to harm a child, giving him the mentality of "Well, he did it, so can I!". To clarify, I do not think loli should be illegal because no children are harmed, and it's simply not real. You have to have preexisting desire and plans to do these things to be genuinely influenced by loli. Loli is obviously a work of fiction, and unrealistic at best, so any influence that loli may have, contrary to popular belief, serves merely as a "tipping point" at its greatest. Also, when these children grow up, these children molested, they'd have a risk of encountering footage of their most traumatic moments on the internet again, as it'd be distributed at a higher rate. Even with child pornography completely illegal, this happens way too often.

Lastly, I'd like to say that pedophilia itself isn't immoral. It's taking advantage of a person who isn't mentally developed enough to make rational decisions. Pedophiles should have ways to relieve their sexuality in a way that doesn't harm others. Just like gays they can't change themselves. But they do have the choice not to harm a child.
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>>5072
Hugs you
>>4913
CSAM is a reddit term I agree. But it's immoral to have sex with somebody not old enough to have the capacity to consent, or understand the full scope of what's happening. And you're obviously not a female, because you don't know how it feels to be touched or penetrated down there. But assuming that you are justifying non-penetrative sexual acts with a child, sex is a pretty complicated thing. It shouldn't be, but it is. Socially and healthwise. Children are easily coerced to participate in things that they wouldn't do if they had the critical thinking skills or awareness of an adult. They often know nothing about sex. They don't know about the risks or taboos. Why would you impose and burden somebody with something like that? Pedophiles more than anyone are aware of the value of virginity, it'd be extremely selfish to tear it apart from somebody who is unaware, or not informed ENOUGH.

I won't deny that children can enjoy sex. Sex is enjoyable. But it isn't just enjoyment, it isn't all fun and games. Sex comes with baggage. Rightfully so, as it's original purpose was to produce kids. For a woman to raise a child takes mental maturity.

If sex didn't have any stigma or health risks, or any general complications I'd understand your argument! But I think it's out of touch. It's not only the physical that matters. Life isn't that simple.
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>>5077
I don't know what the swinny is but I prefer to use my brain as opposed to my balls when formulating a standpoint
>>5074
I'm 100% in favor of "if you sex her you have to marry her."
It's the reason why the old ages of consent of around 9 years old stood so long until feminists gained ground and argued on the issue of social purity (le child abuse) as the reason to raise it literally double. 
If we retvrned to trad marriage none of this would be necessary. All men could have wives (no need to watch 'p) and all women could have kids (biologically satisfied)
Will we ever go back to this though? No, all things will get worse until the cataclysm.
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>>5080
I don't know about this one. I think this makes it even worse in a way. Forcing a child to be legally binded to somebody without knowing the ramifications of it all seems also wrong. But mostly I agree. If all intercourse stayed within marriage, or at least a long-term monoamorous relationship, we wouldn't have to worry so much about so many children getting hurt and the toxic dating environment that young people nowadays have. I agree with you, not for the reasons you provided. Little kids should not have to bear the burden of who to marry. Maybe teenagers, as they are more aware of the gravity of the situation (despite the retardation the often exhibit). 

Thank you for your input though. I always like to hear other viewpoints.
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>>5081
>Forcing a child to be legally binded to somebody without knowing the ramifications of it all seems also wrong.
I understand. But think about it, this happens as soon as you are born to your mother and father. And boys and girls were taught what marriage was. It was an important topic.
>Little kids should not have to bear the burden of who to marry.
And they didn't have to. If they were too young you had to go through her parents and have their full permission. They would have had every right to say no and choose only the best for their daughter. This is what happened nearly all of the time.
And this is all assuming men were commonly marrying single-digit year olds up until it was illegal to do so. This was an EXTREMELY rare occurrence, it was so fringe and almost never happened. 

Pictured: Charlie Johns, 22 and Eunice Winstead, 9. She voluntarily (and secretly) went to be married. He waited until she hit puberty and then gave her, appropriately, 9 children. Infinitely more healthy than a modern couple, but unfortunately the last of its kind
^^^^Exactly!! Pedophilia only becomes a problem when it's a philia of the mind (Mental age), not the body (Physical age/Appearance). But unfortunately, lots of times these two traits will intertwine :(.^^^^
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>>5072
Not only that but I would like to mention how the children themselves never consented to the media of themselves being used and distributed by others, to me this is probably one of the top reasons going to why it's an issue
>>5080
The idea of arousal  hasn't developed in their brain yet        

Another problem I've been having is how child sex dolls are illegal, I just don't get it. If it's not a human being, it shouldn't be illegal.
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Are you an angel
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>>4744 (OP) 
As a map, child pornography is wrong. a child had to be abused to create it. I doubt a child that didn't understand the consequences, if they agreed at all would want pictures of their abuse being shown to people like us even 10+ years after their abuse happened. Fap to lolis instead. They don't exist beyond pixels on a screen, lines on a canvas, polygons on a 3d scene or a text prompt. they don't think or have real feelings or emotions.
>>5084
I don't think a child's mentality and physical form can be fully separated, that sounds like cope to me. Obviously if someone is and looks like a kid, they think like one too. Your subconscious is aware of that aswell. Pretending it's only about the physical is just another form of being in denial of that fact that you're a full blown pedo
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>>>4744 (OP) 
>>Raping people is obviously a crime, however id argue on the sole attraction of children
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>Csam material is prerecorded, making it illegal is just counterproductive as the person consuming the content 99% of the time isn't the one that made the offense, they should make a law instead that only allows content made after 7 months to be illegal so that we know people arent jerking off or using material that contains a human being actually being hurt, same with hurtcore and other material, as said before its prerecorded, theres no helping in banning the media if youre not doing anything about it in the current. You cannot change the past.
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>Tbc
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>>5118
>soyquoting with no argument
>>5110
No, there is even a condition that delays physical development but not mental, I was thinking we should reach farther than just loli and making loli or child sex dolls if the former doesn't work out, it's hard to find girls like that, let alone getting them to have sex with you frequently.
>>5118
Why are you on here nigga I'm crine
>>4751
>it should only be illegal to profit from child porn if they really want to protect children from being exploited, once it's normalized there would be no tor sites with paywalls
>>4756
>This
That wouldn't help.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/the-repulsive-world-of-hurtcore-the-worst-crimes-imaginable/
>She says that unlike other dark markets, such as guns and drugs, most illegal porn is shared among participants for free, so there is no money or cryptocurrency trail to follow.
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